Saturday, August 21, 2010

What would a Mentally Ill/Challenged person be like in Heaven???

Say someone that is born with severe Down's Syndrome. Even if they live to be 50 they never advance beyond a certain point in their emotional growth and they obviously are of limited intelligence.





So in your version of the Afterlife....how to these people develop personalities different from those they had on earth. Does ';Little Timmy' all of a sudden have wit and charm?





Does a person with lifelong Mental Illness that makes them violent from childhood change in heaven? Even when their illness defined who they were on earth?What would a Mentally Ill/Challenged person be like in Heaven???
In heaven they will have no illness, sickness, or disease, they will have unmarred personality which will be able to grow and develop throughout eternity while exploring and discovering the glory of God and others in perfection.What would a Mentally Ill/Challenged person be like in Heaven???
How will any of us be in Heaven? Happy I suspect and surrounded by love. My son has Down syndrome and I have no doubt that God made him that way for a reason...he will be exactly as he is supposed to be.
WHEN WE PASS OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE WE ARE NO LONGER IN OUR EARTHLY BODIES, WE BECOME FREE OF ALL SICKNESS AND MENTAL ILLNESS. THERE ARE THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO ARE THERE TO HELP PEOPLE TO ADJUST TO THEIR NEW HOME , THEY ARE NO LONGER ON THE EARTH PLANE, THEY ARE SOMEWHERE THAT HAS NO PAIN , SICKNESS . THEY ARE GREETED BY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PASSED OVER BEFORE THEM. A SMALL CHILD THAT HAS PASSED OVER WILL WAIT IN MOST CASES FOR THEIR PARENTS TO COME BEFORE THEY CHOOSE TO GROW IN THE NEXT LIFE, SO THEIR PARENTS WILL KNOW THEM AS THEY WERE WHEN THEY LEFT.
He will be just like you or I. That is assuming that we will both be there. From the tone of your question I would suspect that one of us had a little way to go.
Answering the ?....They are equal %26amp; perfect in ';Heaven'; to all the rest of us...we are actually all the same in essence, outside of the physical realm we are in the midst of here on Earth.





Please do not be judging of the perfection of their life here, though...it is our perception of ';normal'; that creates their world of ';challenged';...If you have never experienced the knowing of a human with physical %26amp; mental ';disabilities';, you have yet to know someone who can daily remind you of the ease of your own life here...Again I stress...';I send you nothing but angels.'; And although some can get very frustrated in their own circumstances, there are few ways to see this fact than in the face of a giggling child that we perceive as severely handicapped, but loves with all their hearts, every day they can be with us.
If onw is so limited in mental ability that they are incapable of understanding the Salvation Message... then that one will indeed be granted Salvation and be made whole in Heaven...





however one who has had a life of mental competence and at some point, after reaching the age of accountability, which only God knows, suffers brain damage that renders them incompetent... that one has lost his or her chance at Salvation
As you can see from the responses, people have many diverse beliefs. I have a 'special' sis. I believe in heaven, not all people do. She will be there and there will be love between us.





I don't think we have to worry too much about the details. Why would God create something to destroy it!
in heaven there is no suffering and everyone has a ';perfect'; understanding of God and themselves. I believe that any disablitily (mental or physical) will be greatly rewarded by God in the afterlife%26gt; most of us will have to ';pay'; in the spiritual world before we may enter heaven, those handicapped people are ';paying'; right now, I believe that their disablities are far less harsh than a normals person will have to endure in the next life%26gt; peace.
we are converted into whole spirits when we get to heaven and there is no such thing as ';intellect'; or ';personality'; or ';looks'; or any of the things that define what we are on this earth.
Since those problems you put forth are all physical in nature and since they will have a glorified (perfect) body, there'll obviously be no problem.





And since they will see and know God face to face, I think we can trust Him to make them welcome. I certainly will.
I believe that a person's intelligence has nothing to do with their soul. there are many many people with GLORIOUS souls TRAPPED behind limited intelligence. In the afterlife, all of that will be made right, balanced out.





Even the most kindly. loving person would scream and flail against living their whole life in straight jacket coated with wasabi thumb tacks.





i wish I could explain myself more eloquently, but I do the best I can.
All imperfections (and we all have them) are the result of what became an imperfect genetic make-up because of sin. Before sin entered the world - man was perfect and there was no death or dying. According to Scripture, in the new heaven and earth that is no longer true and we will have perfect bodies that are made to endure eternally. An excellent read on this is Hank Hanagraaff's RESURECTION available at www.equip.org (apologetics site) and probably at amazon. God bless. ~Nisa





P.S. Don't buy into Sylvia Brown anything as someone else suggested - she's a false teacher.
Illness does not define who you are no more than the act of killing yourself defines who you are. You can be the most loving and kind person and still act out because of an illness and even kill someone during that time. Does that mean you are a killer because your illness caused you to lash out and kill? Not hardly. We are told that to enter Heaven we need to be like little children so Little Timmy as you call him, has the right credentials to enter as he is childlike with that child trust and forgiveness that we should have. He may get the wit and charm as you call it but don't you think he already has the charm even if he does not have the wit? The wit can be learned in Heaven but we go with the character we develop on this planet. You don't have to have great intelligence to get to Heaven, only a humble heart that forgives and trusts as a child that God will do as He promised. Those that have the mental illness here now and the down's syndrome are really in a better position than we are with all our faculties as they don't know when they are doing wrong so are innocent but what about us that do the wrong knowing it is wrong and are too proud to ask forgiveness? They will be made perfect that enter into the Kingdom of God. That is a promise you can truly bank on.
They are human right and as I believe that in the after life you get another chance so i assume that they will be just like you or I but with more intelligence.
i believe in reincarnation...


so ya maybe they will get reincarnated to become a prince charming..
Mark 12:24-26
It's a great question...since we have nobody's firsthand account, and have to take it on faith that there even is a heaven. So, wouldn't you like to think that everyone would be happy there?


Another thought, since Down's symdrome's people don't generally commit crimes or sins, maybe they're on a faster track than many of us ';normal'; people.
Healed there are no sick people in heaven or tears or fear
as a spiritualist we are told that in spirit we are whole again .. whether we have physical challenges or mental challenges .. we are perfect


what i really do believe though is that our whole life is a spiritual lesson and what we learn here determines the realm we are placed in spirit


now if we think about the lessons that people with disabilities have endured .. its quite easy to believe that spirit they may very well be more progressed than the average person !
First off I don't know where Jinx gets that.....There's going to be a new heaven and a new earth ( Revelation-Chapter 21).....we will also receive new bodies.....why? Everything is new.....I'm not betting on remembering sin when I'm there.....and why wouldn't God renew his children with the newnest like all of his children....think a moment....if you really believe in God and the Resurrection, wouldn't you think that he would bless the handicapped also and give the blessing of that new life also.....if do you think he may be powerless to correct Dow Syndrome.....and last but not least....these children can't reach the age of accountability with there mental capacity....so I believe that all of these special children or adults belong to the almighty savior. My son died at 9 and I believe he went to heaven.....never was an adult....only a child....I hope this is a good and satisfactory awnser for you.
supposedly, these people with special needs are on their last life and will never come back in spirit form again.

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